It use to be ok that the only feature of the arena was weapon testing and a little no-risk PVP. However, I think this really needs to change and the area need to become more of a major entertainment based concept in the game. In doing so the no-risk PVP needs to be expanded to provide additional ways those players can have fun while PVPing in the realms many arenas.
Each of these arena games need to be player spawn-able from the arena complexes and would be held in special arenas made for each specific event. Each of these events would be announced over the gossip channel be joinable from the location that you currently in the game. (The event teleport system would record your current location hp and mana count and at the end of the event or by use of the leave event command would return you to that same location in the same condition you left for the event in.) After the players have arrived at the event staging location the player that spawned the even would simply type start event.
Join event <event name> - teleports you to the event area.
Leave Event <event name> - leaves an event even if it hasn?t ended yet.
Events:
Capture the flag ? This is a two team PVP event the first team to retrieve the opposing and bring it back to their flag room wins.
Mass Arena Battle ? This is a timed multi player frag style game where players are awarded a token per pvp kill. When the time limit runs out the player with the most tokens is declared the winner.
Grand (creature) Hunt ? This is a timed multi player event. The objective of the hunt is to kill and collect the corpse items of a particular type of monster. The when a players dies in this event he drops all of the corpse items that he has collected so far in the event and is randomly teleported to another part of this games arena. The type of arena for this event would be tailored to the type of creature the hunt revolves around. So if you?re hunting rats it might be sewer arena or if you?re hunting dragons it might be a dark cavern.
King of the mountain ? This is a time multi player PVP race type event. The objective of this game is to get to and remain at the top of the arena?s summit for the duration of the event. When players are killed they are re-spawned at the bottom of the mountains paths. To make things more interesting the many of the paths and ledges of the mountain would have chance booby-trap spells to slow progression up to the summit.
Gambling Arena:
Prizefighter?s Duel - This is a two player PVP, multi player gambling event in which any players can wager a set bet amount on the outcome of the battle. The total cash pot of the event would be divided among the wining gamblers minus a percent portion set aside for the winner of the match.
Other:
Illusionary Realms Arena - (non-contest PVP Arena) This arena starting point would transport you to arena areas of different types like jungles, sewers, forest, swamps, mazes? Each area would have its own pit falls, traps, and other interesting room spells, and chance spells that affect a character?s ability to survive the terrain itself let alone survive while in combat with other players. These arenas are meant to give a more exciting risk free pvp experience then those previously offered by mmud.
I also thought that a maze would be a neat idea. Basicly your transported to a parallel map of one already in play but you are told you need to find your way to another location (like if you were in the labyrinth and you had to find your way into the ancient crypt). If you pick big open areas or ones that are quite confusing naturally it could be alot of fun. Randomize the starting locations or even have the people compeating be going for differrent goals. I would have it so that if you are killed in there you go back to wherever you started the round at. Also would be a great tool for just learing the places better (something that was lacking in mmud where people would just stay on the regular paths).
QuoteMass Arena Battle ? This is a timed multi player frag style game where players are awarded a token per pvp kill. When the time limit runs out the player with the most tokens is declared the winner.
This could also be first to 25 kills. And a great way to gamble. Have it cost however much to get in and a winner takes all type game.
No reason not to make both styles. I'm not sure exactly how I'd want this built but I assume it be easy to make.
Both of those are good ideas.
Maybe we could have options for the frag style games so the players could decide on the winning conditions right before they enter the arena. such as: last player out, max frags, sudden death count down... At any rate the ideal would be to have it so players can manage their own pvp tournaments with out having to have active game-ops at keys.
I really like mazes too. It would be nice to have a number of mazes that could be picked randomly when a group enters the main starting area so they don't get the same terrain over and over again. Then from there they could be sent to random spawn points within the chosen maze.
Easy enough to do, so long as each maze had the same room names and descriptions you wouldnt have much of an issue with megamud, and maps.
The mazes would hopefully be hand played areas where people wouldn't want to use megamud anyway so I don't see mega as an issue. (snip for drunken ramblings) As for room names and or descriptions some could be the same or could be different between the mazes or both. Making the descriptions all the same between the different maps would be really confusing for anyone going into them.
One of the other thoughts on mazes is to do a large 3D maze and then have multiple copies of it with the room names and descriptions swaped around so that each time you go in it makes it seem if the mazes sections have moved around (so you might find your self in section red 1 (normal) and walk into in section blue 1 (wall). We could actually present it as a non-grabable item in the game that the players get shrunk and teleported into kind of like a magic rubix cube arena. "Maybe have the players eat a magic pill (makes you smaller) to get into it and find and take a second magic pill (makes you larger) in the maze to get out. then we could have chance encounters with a white rabbit that teleports you to other parts of the maze... lol have to love alice refrences..."
hehe any takers on turning this into a mud map:
(http://home.comcast.net/~paradox/greatermaze.GIF)
Do you know how many people would quit after they died in there. Any idea? I'm guessing 80%
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haha ya I was thinking giant showcase arena to get around that. I just thought it would be cool to have a map that well said greatermud. Hell we could even just use each individual letter as a individual arena.
Man each letter has as many rooms as the baseline mmud module.
lol I don't think its that many... Grin you could put one letter in for each greatermud module :)
I was actually thinking of posting some of these mazes (smaller ones that is) as contests in the editing section to see if anyone wants to turn them into maps.
Btw that was generated with that maze software link I sent you just so you know.
I know, I don't know that i really care for that software (for map creation that is), it either becomes too simple or too big.
I'm still on the wall with some of its functions the small mazes it does are no worse the silvermeres portal arena. I agree though that in order to really make them intresting they tend to get rather large. I think some of it is just in finding the right size to make them work well. I'll play with it for a few more days if I can find the magic values for size I'll let you know. If not I'll check out some of the other maze software out there.
Quote from: The Crazy Animal on Jan 02, 2007, 05:06 AM
I'm still on the wall with some of its functions the small mazes it does are no worse the silvermeres portal arena. I agree though that in order to really make them intresting they tend to get rather large. I think some of it is just in finding the right size to make them work well. I'll play with it for a few more days if I can find the magic values for size I'll let you know. If not I'll check out some of the other maze software out there.
Yeah thing is, I couldn't possibly need or want software to generate something as simple as the silvermere arena.
I agree at that size its just as easy to do by hand. What I was trying to key it in for about 6-10 times the size of silvermeres arena.. so far I'm having moderate luck with it.
A few of the things I thought that would be cool to do with it was:
A large multi floor laby like area.
A med. size shrub maze for an area outside a castle.
Have you thought of just grabbing a road map before? Some of those streets out there can be confusing but still logicaly designed. so it would feel more like a map than a maze. just google map or mapquest areas. I would think big cities would be best but im sure some rural roads have their uses too. anyway just a thought.
Hadnt thought of that. Might not be a horrible idea :p
I was thinking about this idea yesterday and the more I think about it, the more I like it:
We have scheduled contests where players and/or teams are given a specific amount of experience and a specific amount of money to be spent to "prepare" for the tournament. For example, suppose a tournament was scheduled for 1pm tomorrow. People would enter the contest and be given 200k experience and maybe 5 platinum and be placed in their own private staging area. They'd be allowed to train (level up) as much as their given exp would allow them based on their race/class and train their stats. They could spend their 5 platinum on items in their designated staging areas. At the specified start time of the tournament, a gate would open that leads to the main arena and the tournament would officially start (everyone else's gates would open as well).
This could work for both pvp and for players vs. mobs (like pitting a group of players against a huge mob or a set of mobs). We could have real time rankings and captures of the fights on a web site. I'm thinking we start this out as a side game, not connected to a real realm, but if it were popular and/or successful we can hook it into a real realm and have people bet on the outcomes. Players could have an option to choose a gladiator lifestyle and each match they win they receive more money, experience, and special items.
I typed all that as a new thread today. Then I saw there was one with the same name just a few threads down so I deleted mine and moved it here. :P
After getting our web editor working I will create a small area for exactly this purpose (unless someone else wants to). The main arena could consist of like 10 rooms or so in the center, and then a bunch of gates on the outskirts each leading to a staging area with a trainer and a shop to buy items. Each shop should probably be identical in the name of making the contest fair.
This idea is exciting me. ;)
Sounds like fun the only problem I can see how it would work in an established realm. Ie. Would this require a secondary account or would there be some way to store the secondary arena character on the main user account?
On an additional point it would be a lot of fun to be able to play as a monster in this type of arena combat. So a player could say play as a dragon or any other monster type with a specialized spell/attack set against another character be it monster or PC available character.
Note - Another nice way to provide levels would be through a classic video game type of level up potion. These then plus additional items would be tossed around the area be it loose on the ground, dropped by specially summoned monsters, and or in chests... This would allow the arena players to then start at level 1 and race to gain the power advantage of the other players involved.
Quote from: The Crazy Animal on Mar 13, 2007, 11:09 PM
Sounds like fun the only problem I can see how it would work in an established realm. Ie. Would this require a secondary account or would there be some way to store the secondary arena character on the main user account?
On an additional point it would be a lot of fun to be able to play as a monster in this type of arena combat. So a player could say play as a dragon or any other monster type with a specialized spell/attack set against another character be it monster or PC available character.
I think initially it will be it's own side game that's not connected to a main realm. But if it's popular and people want it, we can integrate it into a real realm. When we get to that point, I see people signing up in-game to participate in events with their actual characters, billboards for these events could be posted and "announced" by town criars and npcs in town. We can implement features like handicapping and odds and what not in the name of making it more fair and exciting. We can have some events where you have to shed all your gear and equip from a restricted set of items, or we can have some events where you "run what you brung, and hope you brung enough." Some could be winner-takes-all (meaning gear from fallen opponents and/or rewards) while others would just be grudge matches or friendly competitions. The sky is the limit really.
As for players playing as mobs, it would be kind of cool for people to be able to transform their characters into a mob form (like a shapeshifter of sorts), so adding this type of feature into the arena/gladiator thing might be feasible.